Jorge Fuentes: From Law to AI Innovation and the Future of Citizen Builders - Ep 25

[ 0m0s - 0m32s ] Jorge Fuentes: We're at a point in history where the opportunity is great and quite equalized, I'll say, right? Getting the AI to magnify the the the talent that you already possess, right? So so it's not a replacement but rather a magnifier projector of the human. That's what it should be and and what we should strive for for sure. So nobody is like a a seasoned 10 year, uh 15 years of experience on on ChaT. No, there's no one out there doing that and I think that gives a lot of room uh for anybody that wants to get into this space, level up within a couple months, you can get really good and and then just start adding value from the getgo.

[ 0m32s - 0m56s ] Kyle James: In today's episode, we're joined by Jorge Fuentes. Jorge is a hubspot implementation specialist and one of the most prolific AI builders on H& AI with 51 hubspot Academy certifications and a portfolio of real world agents spanning lead scoring, HR screening and content creation. Jorge shares how he's turned everyday business challenges into automated solutions.

[ 0m56s - 1m16s ] Kyle James: We'll talk about the rise of the citizen builder, why everyone can start building agents right now and how AI can become your most reliable teammate. And with that, let's get to the show. O, thank you so much for joining me today on this this podcast for prompted builder stories by Agent AI. Super fascinating and exciting to talk with you today. You have built a whole lot of agents on the platform across a whole wide range of stuff. And as we were kind of talking before we got going,

[ 1m17s - 1m27s ] Kyle James: a man of my own heart, a Jack of all trades. Hey, I see something interesting over here. I want to build a an HR resume building thing. I want to build a marketing agent. I want to build whatever. It just kind of comes out. So,

[ 1m27s - 1m36s ] Kyle James: I'd love just to kind of get us going like, tell us a little bit about yourself. You know, I'm big comic book guy. I've got a Wolverine shirt on today.

[ 1m36s - 1m41s ] Kyle James: Your diverse background, you know, everything from law to marketing to AI, like

[ 1m41s - 1m45s ] Kyle James: tell us how you got here, man.

[ 1m45s - 1m46s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. Absolutely, Kyle. And and

[ 1m46s - 1m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: thank you so much for having me uh today. Definitely

[ 1m48s - 1m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh yep, yep. I uh I I did study law and got my law degree and then got my law lawyer's license, let's call it, right?

[ 1m58s - 2m3s ] Jorge Fuentes: I also went into insurance at the same time. so I got like my insurance license there, right?

[ 2m3s - 2m24s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um at some point when I was trying to do both at the same time, right? Like selling car insurance and life insurance and also like uh you know, helping with some paperwork, like friends and family as a lawyer, right? I I figured there had to be something else out there, right? So I I historically had been working also for my dad's business on the side of marketing, helping him with a couple of things here and there.

[ 2m24s - 2m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um but definitely I it in during the pandemic, right? is when I went into digital marketing, I got several certifications, you know, Academy, uh Semrush Academy, right? And then I was like, well, I I could do this for a living maybe, right? And so I applied for a ton of jobs on LinkedIn remote and I finally got one, right? And so that's how I got into like digital agencies, right? So that's what I've been doing in the for the past five, uh four to five years or so.

[ 2m45s - 3m13s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and then um in the latest uh, you know, agency that I I I'm part of, right? So psychic strategies, so George B Thomas is psychic strategies. Uh he's a spot and inbound legend by the way. He talks he he he gives a talk in the inbound conference every year, right? And so he he's really into AI. He he's taught me a lot of like things about like, you know, how to think on on on turning, you know, the the the AI into something that is producing the human output, right? So he's he's got like this this phrase, you know, like um

[ 3m13s - 3m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: human powered AI assisted, not the other way around, right? And so with with that framework in mind is how I got to like uh you know, open my agent.ai uh account. Uh by the way, I did attend uh inbound 24 with George also, right? And so in that in that conference is when uh you know, gave his keynote uh uh talk, right?

[ 3m33s - 3m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: And he released into the world like agent.ai and I was like, I got to get in there. I got to get playing around with the tool and that's how we're here. Yep, yep. So so that's pretty much my journey uh from let's say, you know, lawyer, insurance agent, slash, you know,

[ 3m45s - 3m50s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh to to actually a marketer that builds AI agents for fun.

[ 3m50s - 3m57s ] Kyle James: That's awesome. I'm I'm I'm sure some of the team will want to hear that like, all right, from that very first impression it worked on you and you jumped in and started building stuff, but

[ 3m57s - 4m4s ] Kyle James: also you should not undersell yourself. Like, did I see somewhere that you had like 51 hubspot certifications?

[ 4m4s - 4m5s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yep.

[ 4m5s - 4m10s ] Kyle James: Um oh my gosh. I didn't even know there was that many hubspot certifications. Right? Clearly, you've learned it all at this point.

[ 4m10s - 4m20s ] Jorge Fuentes: Right, right, several, I mean, there's very few that I haven't gotten. Uh there there you'll be surprised there there's a few more, right? But anything that's like, you know, uh

[ 4m20s - 4m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: you know, developers, uh thingy, right? I still don't have those, right? I'm I'm pretty much just focused on marketing and sales, right? But definitely, yeah, yeah, 51 has been like the all-time high.

[ 4m29s - 4m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: At some point, the 51 search were active at the same time, so that was like the the record there.

[ 4m35s - 4m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: Right now, I still got to renew a couple, right? Uh, but you know, 51 Academy certifications. I definitely the time when I went into I went I went to Boston in in for inbound 24 and you know how they give away some of these like uh pins uh for your certain like every certification you get, get one pin for it. Uh I got like a a whole ton of them and then yeah, and that's uh

[ 4m58s - 5m17s ] Jorge Fuentes: it's pretty good. But but by the way, those have been very helpful in my career. So so I definitely like owe but academy, you know, a lot of the uh you know, the great work that we do at at at strategies and definitely um yeah, if I find that that's been also part of like, you know, me getting into AI a little bit too, right? Because spot is

[ 5m17s - 5m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: generally right now at least, uh using AI for pretty much everything. It's pretty pretty ingrained into the platform.

[ 5m23s - 5m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so, so yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Sure, sure.

[ 5m26s - 5m32s ] Kyle James: So, we should talk about that a little bit, right? Like, all right, you clearly you're someone not afraid to go learn and and and

[ 5m32s - 5m36s ] Kyle James: just like a sponge for knowledge, right? Like if there's a certification, there's something out here that's

[ 5m36s - 5m40s ] Kyle James: formalized that I can learn from. That probably leads a lot into like, okay, there's this AI thing.

[ 5m40s - 5m48s ] Kyle James: Maybe not the the maybe it doesn't have the same formalization of a certification around it, but

[ 5m48s - 5m52s ] Kyle James: it's definitely one of those fields that like you learn by doing, right? So so talk to me about like

[ 5m52s - 5m56s ] Kyle James: someone who had had more that background, the formal training and formal education like

[ 5m56s - 6m0s ] Kyle James: jumping into something new like this. Was that different for you? Do you like this more or less or

[ 6m0s - 6m2s ] Kyle James: kind of talk talk us a little bit through that that kind of transition there?

[ 6m2s - 6m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely, Kyle. So, um what I'll say is that, you know, learning AI uh the the the barriers to entry to to learning

[ 6m12s - 6m27s ] Jorge Fuentes: AI are super low. Like they're they've never been lower than anything else in the past like uh you know, any any degree, any any area that you want to become an expert on like right now you literally could pay 20 bucks a month for, you know, T uh plus, right? Uh or

[ 6m27s - 6m36s ] Jorge Fuentes: um and and then just get in there and then start asking it questions and then, you know, leveling up your skills on any topic, but particularly AI, you know, like

[ 6m36s - 6m44s ] Jorge Fuentes: that that's even easier, right? It's pretty much as you're just a conversation away from leveling up on anything, right? And and even for free too, like you don't need you don't even need to pay the subscription by the way.

[ 6m44s - 6m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh but but but yeah. So so I think like uh that's the beauty of AI right now.

[ 6m48s - 7m0s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um you know, anybody that calls themselves an expert on it doesn't have more than what, three years of experience, right? Uh you know,

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[ 7m11s - 7m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: 10 year, uh 15 years of experience on on. No, there there's no one out there doing that and I think that gives a lot of room uh for anybody that wants to get into this space, level up

[ 7m21s - 7m25s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh within a couple months, you can get really good and and then just start adding value from the get go.

[ 7m25s - 7m31s ] Kyle James: I think that's such an I I haven't really thought about it that way before, but you're absolutely right. Like people are afraid to like jump in and try some of this stuff, but

[ 7m31s - 7m38s ] Kyle James: to your point, no maybe someone has a two to three year lead on you. It's not like they have decades of experience that have been doing this forever.

[ 7m38s - 7m42s ] Kyle James: Sure, there are like people that have been building machine learning and stuff, but like this this agentic, this generative

[ 7m42s - 7m48s ] Kyle James: AI is so new to all of us. And and we're all still figuring it out. That that's such a great like, don't be afraid of it because no one's that

[ 7m48s - 7m55s ] Kyle James: far ahead. And and no one's an expert on it. They're all like in in human years, what? three-year-olds?

[ 7m55s - 7m56s ] Kyle James: Right? They're toddlers.

[ 7m56s - 7m57s ] Jorge Fuentes: Right? Exactly. Yep, yep, yep.

[ 7m57s - 8m6s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely, absolutely. And and uh obviously there there are uh I think there's value almost anybody could could add via AI, right? Like for example, when

[ 8m6s - 8m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: when thinking about like the agents that I've built, I I still don't know, you know, JavaScript or or I'm not a like an HTML guru either. Like I'm not a developer at all. Like

[ 8m16s - 8m24s ] Jorge Fuentes: we we just talked about how like some of the search in like from Academy that I still haven't gotten, they're all like developer focused, right? Uh so I'm not a developer.

[ 8m24s - 8m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: But but AI has helped me uh, you know, develop AI agents, right? And that are useful and and can help, you know, marketers and businesses in general, right? So so so I think that that's that that's that's powerful. That that's the power of

[ 8m35s - 8m44s ] Jorge Fuentes: AI there, right? Like it's a an opportunity for pretty much anyone that um as Dash calls us, right, citizen builders to get in there and and just start uh start going with it. sure.

[ 8m44s - 8m50s ] Kyle James: You've built a lot of agents, right? And and we should absolutely showcase one or two here in a in a second, but I I'm curious before we get into that.

[ 8m50s - 9m4s ] Kyle James: Lead scoring. I was just playing with that earlier. Great, great template that it sets up for any business that gives them starting like, where do I start? You go run this thing. here's something to go for. HR screening, content generation, um, like company enrichment, lead enrichment.

[ 9m4s - 9m13s ] Kyle James: Like you built all this wide range of stuff like, what have you learned like any best practices or tips or things that it's really good at or things that it's not good at that you've kind of

[ 9m13s - 9m15s ] Kyle James: seen and learned as you kind of explored all these different elements?

[ 9m15s - 9m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: What I'll say is that the one of the first agents that I built which was the is is called the mini company that enrich, right? And so definitely we'll talk about enrichment. Uh, the first time I published that one, it it got two

[ 9m29s - 9m37s ] Jorge Fuentes: one star ratings, right? So that was like my first feedback out there, right? So it was wasn't that great at the beginning. Um, so so I so so so

[ 9m37s - 9m49s ] Jorge Fuentes: what I'm trying to say is like the um, sometimes the first agent you build won't add a lot of value from the getgo, but then now we've revamped that agent uh and then built others from there such as like the lead scoring generator, right? Uh five-star rating across the board, uh several with

[ 9m49s - 9m50s ] Jorge Fuentes: five-star ratings as well.

[ 9m50s - 10m4s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so, uh, yeah, what pretty much stems uh you know, how how these agents come to be is that uh usually I have like let's say recurring task that I got to do in my job and I'm like, there really is not a tool just for this task task, you know, to to to get done at least um 80% of the way there, right?

[ 10m4s - 10m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: Because sometimes we're thinking, you know, we we're trying to build something that completely hands off to AI and then we're just, you know, um

[ 10m12s - 10m22s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh, take taking a break and then AI is doing the work for us. And I I think that's not really the goal. The goal is more like, you know, in my case, for example, I I um I I

[ 10m22s - 10m34s ] Jorge Fuentes: tend to do this on a on a weekly basis, we build a newsletter for a client, right? But that client pushes a lot of content on YouTube, right? And so that's how the YouTube to newsletter agent came to be because it makes my job easier.

[ 10m34s - 10m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: And it probably makes somebody else's job easier as well. It doesn't get 100% of the of the uh the newsletter built. It it really just gives me the the the copy or something that I can, you know, um,

[ 10m45s - 10m55s ] Jorge Fuentes: um, uh think about and and then, you know, iterate from and etc. but it definitely helps. It gets maybe 60 or 80% of the of the job done, right? So so I think that that is that is fundamental when when building an agent.

[ 10m55s - 11m9s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh, you know, uh the first thing, you know, how kind of like we said with the first agent I built on the that enrichment, uh, you know, it might not be what you wanted to be at first and it you know, there may be some folks that give you, you know, what could be negative feedback, but it's mostly constructive feedback, right? Because we're all trying to

[ 11m9s - 11s ] Jorge Fuentes: improve and then you improve upon it.

[ 11m9s - 11m20s ] Jorge Fuentes: So so don't don't be afraid to launch because, you know, you might get a one star rating like that that the you you'll also get five star ratings uh uh along the way for sure. But then having that mentality of adding value through them,

[ 11m20s - 11m32s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh, and then, you know, you know, whatever pain point you're facing right now in your workflow, like the the weekly or on a daily basis, there might be something you can do to help yourself and others in the process as well.

[ 11m32s - 11m40s ] Kyle James: Well, and I think you're making a really important point here. I just want to like reiterate is and you said it from the beginning, right? Like these are human assisted, right?

[ 11m40s - 11m45s ] Kyle James: Human in the loop is is kind of the right term, I think a lot of us are using now, but

[ 11m45s - 11m47s ] Kyle James: these things are not going to get you all the way there.

[ 11m47s - 11m52s ] Kyle James: And and I think that's the mind shift a lot of I know I've had to go through is like, I'm no longer necessarily a writer.

[ 11m52s - 11m54s ] Kyle James: I'm an editor.

[ 11m54s - 12m11s ] Kyle James: Right? Like, you think about it from from a newspaper's perspective of you have all these journalists, right, writing all these different articles and and you could do that with AI, but you still need to as someone over it, put out a newsletter, review the content that's putting out there, provide feedback, iterate on it, clean it up. Like, what are you trying to get out of here as the

[ 12m11s - 12m15s ] Kyle James: editor of the entire publication or or whatever you're doing.

[ 12m15s - 12m21s ] Kyle James: And and for any of these tools, if you realize it as an assistant to get you

[ 12m21s - 12m25s ] Kyle James: 60, 80% of the way there, that saves a ton of time.

[ 12m25s - 12m26s ] Kyle James: in and of itself.

[ 12m26s - 12m40s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. Yep, yep. I I mean, I mean, when you compound the um, you know, if if you do something in a minute yourself and the agent can help you do it in 10 seconds, right? When you compound those 50 seconds that you've got left, right?

[ 12m40s - 12m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: Over a month, over a year, that saves a lot of time and money as well, right? So so that's definitely

[ 12m45s - 12m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: yeah, for sure, the mindset that uh most of the builders need to have and also the people that leverage them. And by the way, one thing that I love about agents, right? And and this is one

[ 12m53s - 13m1s ] Jorge Fuentes: thing that sets them apart from general like like historical SAS software or or you know, it's that um you sometimes don't even need to be tech savvy to use an agent because you can just email them.

[ 13m1s - 13m2s ] Kyle James: Right? So so

[ 13m2s - 13m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: imagine this, right? Like whatever task you need completed, if the agent the agents have like an email address

[ 13m7s - 13m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: themselves, right? So you can trigger them just by sending an email. So so almost anybody can send an email, right?

[ 13m12s - 13m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so so that that's pretty powerful right there. Like the the adoption of AI agents in my view will be faster than, you know, uh

[ 13m21s - 13m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: you know, CRM software, project management software, whatever and for sure. So I think so I think that's important to consider. Absolutely.

[ 13m26s - 13m32s ] Kyle James: So so what I heard you say right there is my 78-year-old mom can can become an agentic user because she knows how to email.

[ 13m32s - 13m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: That's it.

[ 13m33s - 13m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. Sure, sure. As long as somebody has a a Gmail account and and can and knows how to hit send to to a specific address, right?

[ 13m42s - 13m47s ] Jorge Fuentes: They they can get anything done for sure with an agent. You can leverage an agent. Absolutely.

[ 13m47s - 13m47s ] Kyle James: Awesome.

[ 13m47s - 13m58s ] Kyle James: Do you want to demo a couple of these things? I I would love, you know, if if if you're comfortable with it, maybe maybe kind of the lead scoring. I think that's a good kind of intro and then we can look at one of your content generators too, whether the YouTube newsletter or something like that.

[ 13m58s - 14m0s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. Yep, yep, yep.

[ 14m0s - 14m6s ] Kyle James: Cuz I was just playing with it before and and I think, you know, there there're absolutely agencies and people out there that build lead scoring algorithms all the time.

[ 14m6s - 14s ] Kyle James: But for a lot of us, it's like, where do you start?

[ 14m8s - 14s ] Kyle James: You know?

[ 14s - 14m22s ] Kyle James: And and I think that's what's so cool about this agent that you're about to show is it's not going to be perfect, but it's going to give you some variables and things that you can look at be like, oh yeah, that makes sense or maybe I want to tune that up or down a little bit, but it gives you something immediately that I that's going to get you to our point.

[ 14m22s - 14m28s ] Kyle James: 80% of the way there and then it's just a matter like, all right, how do I want to more customize this based on my business? So,

[ 14m28s - 14m39s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yeah, absolutely and thanks Kyle. Yeah, totally um and definitely as mentioned, right? like um we want to think about this as, you know, human powered AI assisted, right? Like definitely

[ 14m39s - 14m47s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh whatever this agent spits out, you want to review it, right? Obviously. Uh if you got a compliance team, maybe that's also important, right? Uh specifically for at least the

[ 14m47s - 14m54s ] Jorge Fuentes: newsletter or blog article agents as well. Uh but definitely yeah, showcasing the lead scoring framework generator here. Uh so so what we'll do, I'm actually just going to go into

[ 14m54s - 15m1s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh, you know, pasting, let's see if I have something saved over here. Uh not really, but let me just open up a new tab and then I'll go to like uh, you know, this website right here. I'll grab the link, right? Uh and then absolutely sure. And then grab the link there, right?

[ 15m1s - 15m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then I'll click go. And so the what what by the way, what we're doing here is that um and then I'll just uh take care of that. Um and there we go. Yeah. So you you can use this agent to get a lead scoring framework. Uh most businesses out there or or marketing teams actually marketing teams and sales teams, I've seen that they don't know where to start with the lead scoring

[ 15m21s - 15m31s ] Jorge Fuentes: framework, right? So so they're like, should I do based based out of like 10,000 points, right? Or 100 points, right? For like and and should it be on on website

[ 15m31s - 15m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: page visits, you know, uh emails opened, right? Like what are the signals I should be considering in order to, you know,

[ 15m38s - 15m51s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh implement lead scoring in hubspot, right? And so in this case, all you got to do, this agent takes care of that by, you know, you pasting your URL, you hit go here, right? And then we'll wait just a little bit.

[ 15m51s - 16m3s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then based on your website's content and um uh and you know, kind of like the way you capture leads as well, whether that's via uh a newsletter form, obviously a contact form, maybe, you know, uh blog article blog blog sign ups, uh whatever you have going on on your site.

[ 16m3s - 16m8s ] Jorge Fuentes: This um agent scrapes it uh and then provides a lead scoring framework that you could apply based just on your website.

[ 16m8s - 16m10s ] Jorge Fuentes: content, your value proposition.

[ 16m10s - 16m21s ] Kyle James: Another comment just to make around this while while it's loading is You could also, if you have an existing lead score, run something like this and it it might make you think of something that you haven't thought of before

[ 16m21s - 16m26s ] Kyle James: to to like edit or or tweak or change your lead score a little bit. Um, which is another use case that

[ 16m26s - 16m32s ] Kyle James: you might be, you know, deep, deep into this, but sometimes just thinking outside the box or asking an external perspective

[ 16m32s - 16m36s ] Kyle James: can kind of give you something like, oh, that's a good idea. Let me try that as well.

[ 16m36s - 16m37s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely, Kyle.

[ 16m37s - 16m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: So so if uh if a marketing team has a lead scoring framework that they're like, this is not being useful at all or or just not helping sales with, you know,

[ 16m48s - 16m57s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh the lead scoring in general, right? Uh you you could rerun it here like like your your site and then just like get ideas on and improve upon what you already built for sure.

[ 16m57s - 17m3s ] Kyle James: To the other point though, right? Like yes, these things aren't instant, but how long does somebody typically spend trying to come up with a lead score?

[ 17m3s - 17m10s ] Kyle James: You know, it it could be multiple meetings over multiple weeks to kind of get a consensus. If this kind of starts the process for you. Um there it is. Absolutely.

[ 17m10s - 17m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yep, yep, totally. and so so yeah, absolutely imagine this, right? Like I just put in my website, um

[ 17m16s - 17m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: it already grabbed like the name of the company and then just kind of like uh what I should be looking for, right? Based on the job title, right?

[ 17m23s - 17m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and by the way, this is things that I could input, you know, in my form, right? So so job title, I got to grab that data.

[ 17m29s - 17m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh if it's anything like marketing director, CEO, uh head, etc, give 15 points.

[ 17m35s - 17m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: and you get the just it, right? Like company size as well, um industry, uh what hubspot plan they have, right? These are all like things I could ask for and then have, you know, graded

[ 17m45s - 17m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: within hubspot and then score on within hubspot and then just uh go from there, right? Engagement, uh some negative scoring, right? Like uh, you know, if it's

[ 17m53s - 17m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: B2C, right? And I'm on B2B, if they've unsubscribed, no engagement in the last 30 days.

[ 17m58s - 18s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then just the threshold here. By the way,

[ 18s - 18m13s ] Jorge Fuentes: this is this is this is an important aspect of the agent, right? Uh I've built it in a way that um as a best practice, we keep the score within the 100 points uh threshold, right? Uh why? Because that should be enough, right?

[ 18m13s - 18m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh sometimes I've seen uh companies go for the, you know, 1,000 or 10,000 in points, but you know, what what differentiates somebody that's, you know, 9,438

[ 18m23s - 18m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: versus someone that's 9,435, you know, like are they they they're the same to me, right? Like

[ 18m29s - 18m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: so so so so that is why, you know, the 100 score range.

[ 18m33s - 18m40s ] Jorge Fuentes: And uh and yes, definitely tells you know the score range, the lead stage, uh what workflow or action could be triggered.

[ 18m40s - 18m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: and some notes as well. and that's pretty much it. for sure.

[ 18m42s - 18m42s ] Kyle James: Super cool.

[ 18m43s - 18m55s ] Kyle James: Super cool. Something any everybody can go out there and try and just like, you know, get some immediate either either improvements to what they're doing or come up with a lead score for the first time. Absolutely. And definitely uh

[ 18m55s - 19m4s ] Jorge Fuentes: it's super easy to use as well, just like we were talking with the um the you know, that you can email an agent here, you're pretty much on the agent's page and you all you got to do is copy and paste in the URL and it'll give you the whole framework.

[ 19m4s - 19m14s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then yeah, definitely that could help anybody that's uh that doesn't have a lead scoring framework or they want to improve their current lead scoring framework and just need more ideas or or more uh tests that they could

[ 19m14s - 19m15s ] Jorge Fuentes: be uh doing for sure.

[ 19m15s - 19m23s ] Kyle James: Do you you want to show one of the new ones you've been working with? And and and I'm curious why you're loading that. Um talk to like, what is the feedback and and reaction you're getting from people?

[ 19m23s - 19m29s ] Kyle James: Like and two, does this does this lead to business? Are y'all using this as like lead gen also?

[ 19m29s - 19m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yeah, absolutely. And and I'll show it right here in in a bit for sure. I'm going to go to the agent

[ 19m33s - 19m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: builder. I think I can get to the um uh the reviews. So let me just go for example the

[ 19m38s - 19m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: the lead scoring framework generator there and then I want to see the um

[ 19m42s - 19m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh I'll I'll just run it right here. I think I got to go to the profile. There we go.

[ 19m48s - 19m54s ] Jorge Fuentes: So these are the reviews I've gotten so far. Um only five right now. Uh you know, 20 people are following it.

[ 19m54s - 19m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh 20 18 tasks completed. Uh so so far so good. Uh some folks don't leave an actual

[ 19m58s - 20m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: comment, they just put five stars ratings and I think that's that's pretty cool as well. Uh some others uh

[ 20m2s - 20m10s ] Jorge Fuentes: I I have gotten within the um um you know, within my email uh that that you know, it's great, it works great, etc.

[ 20m10s - 20m14s ] Jorge Fuentes: just very short uh feedback in general, but for now it it it seems to have been

[ 20m14s - 20m18s ] Jorge Fuentes: to have been good for sure. And um and yeah, absolutely. And so

[ 20m18s - 20m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: if we I'll showcase the other agent, right? Just based off of this one, right? I'll actually take this video

[ 20m23s - 20m28s ] Jorge Fuentes: and just grab this URL because we'll be needing it, right? So I'm going to copy that. Um and then I'm going to go back

[ 20m28s - 20m36s ] Jorge Fuentes: now into a to another agent, the the more recent agent that I built. I'll just go to my profile here. Right? And then on the right hand side, I'm going to go to the

[ 20m36s - 20m40s ] Jorge Fuentes: YouTube to newsletter converter, right? And so

[ 20m40s - 20m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: what this agent helps with, by the way, this this is the one of the more recent agents that I've built.

[ 20m45s - 20m55s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um is that um, you know, sometimes and I mentioned, right? Like I have um uh some recurring tasks uh on a on a weekly basis where I got to like

[ 20m55s - 21m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: a client of ours like he um publishes YouTube videos, right? But we need to create his weekly newsletter, right? So sometimes

[ 21m2s - 21m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: I want to base it off of like the content on his latest YouTube video, right? And so this is where it comes in.

[ 21m7s - 21m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: You you pretty much just input your your video, right? So that's the URL that I grabbed from my own video, right? lead scoring framework generator, etc. And then you're going to input the the name of your company or brand person.

[ 21m16s - 21m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: In this case, I'm I'm going to do like Jorge Fuentes here. Um right there, right? Just because the person that

[ 21m23s - 21m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: did that agent is myself and then I'm just going to click go, right?

[ 21m26s - 21m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so what it'll do is that based off of your YouTube video's transcript, uh it will build

[ 21m33s - 21m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: a newsletter for you or or at least a newsletter template that you could consider definitely, right? So, um coming back to kind of like,

[ 21m38s - 21m46s ] Jorge Fuentes: you know, the human touch of of it all uh and and making sure that you are being AI assisted, not AI powered, more like human powered

[ 21m46s - 21m50s ] Jorge Fuentes: then AI assisted. Um yeah, that that'll be kind of like the reason behind this

[ 21m50s - 21m56s ] Jorge Fuentes: agent. And so um yeah, just input your video URL, uh the name of your company brand or person.

[ 21m56s - 22m0s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then in a little bit we'll be seeing a little bit of uh a newsletter that we can leverage, right? Oh so so There we go.

[ 22m0s - 22m6s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. You can actually see that uh we get, you know, subject line, um that we can AB test. So that's pretty cool.

[ 22m6s - 22m13s ] Jorge Fuentes: It it it mis misspell, you know, hop spot just because it grabs your transcript and sometimes YouTube uh might, you know,

[ 22m13s - 22m20s ] Jorge Fuentes: iterate uh from your transcript, right? and it has, you know, hop spot instead of hub spot, right? But you know, you you you can get the this subject line.

[ 22m20s - 22m22s ] Kyle James: It's why you need the human in the loop.

[ 22m22s - 22m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: Exactly. Yep, yep, totally, totally. And and to be honest, I think we'll always be needing it, right? Absolutely for sure. So so that's the pre-header, uh the newsletter copy, you know, the the, you know, opening paragraph and so on.

[ 22m35s - 22m37s ] Jorge Fuentes: and some potential CTAs as well, right?

[ 22m37s - 22m44s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so uh yeah, some tips as well. It it include and it does include like a body here that you can also leverage, right?

[ 22m44s - 22m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and that's pretty much it. That's what this agent helps with. So, to your comment earlier, like this is a specific task

[ 22m48s - 22m50s ] Kyle James: that you have to do on a weekly basis.

[ 22m50s - 22m56s ] Kyle James: You agentized it. And and I'm curious to that point like, how much time were you spending on this before and how much time like

[ 22m56s - 23m0s ] Kyle James: and maybe you don't eat maybe we don't I don't know. You tell me if we don't want to say this because the customer watches this. Oh, good.

[ 23m0s - 23m3s ] Kyle James: Like how much time does this save you on a weekly basis now?

[ 23m3s - 23s ] Jorge Fuentes: No, no worries. I and absolutely. I I I think the client won't mind and definitely

[ 23s - 23m11s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh on a weekly basis, you know, because it's just one newsletter, one email. Uh it takes under an hour, maybe, you know, 30 minutes to an hour.

[ 23m11s - 23m17s ] Jorge Fuentes: But with this agent, like it cuts uh, you know, this to a minute, at least this part of it, which is already 60% of it, right?

[ 23m17s - 23m23s ] Jorge Fuentes: And then maybe just 10 minutes of, you know, bringing that in and adjusting a couple things. So so it it reduced it maybe from an hour to about

[ 23m23s - 23m25s ] Jorge Fuentes: 15 minutes or so, right? So so that's

[ 23m25s - 23m26s ] Kyle James: That's say 75% of your time on that. That that's significant.

[ 23m26s - 23m27s ] Jorge Fuentes: definitely a lot of time savings.

[ 23m27s - 23m32s ] Kyle James: Yeah. Yes, there's some upfront cost to like building this thing, but once it's built, it's an annuity, right? It it pays you out every time.

[ 23m32s - 23m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: Totally, totally.

[ 23m33s - 23m34s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely.

[ 23m34s - 23m42s ] Kyle James: I want to call out too to people like some of these YouTube, um there is a specific like tool in Agent AI that can pull any YouTube script and

[ 23m42s - 23m43s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yep.

[ 23m43s - 23m50s ] Kyle James: there's so much stuff that you could do with with those, like, right? Like, yeah, transcript generators, uh content producers.

[ 23m50s - 23m59s ] Kyle James: I I'm a voracious YouTube uh watcher and, you know, like, yes, a lot of times, I don't know if you do this too, maybe I'm telling on myself. I watch stuff on one and a half speed.

[ 23m59s - 24m1s ] Jorge Fuentes: 2X speed, I watch sometimes. Oh, I can't go that fast.

[ 24m1s - 24m2s ] Kyle James: You're you're faster than I am.

[ 24m2s - 24m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: Right, right.

[ 24m2s - 24m10s ] Kyle James: But even then, right? If you're watching a 20-minute thing on one and a half speed, it's still taking you 10 plus minutes and sometimes you could just like grab me the transcript and

[ 24m10s - 24m14s ] Kyle James: have AI summarize it for you and there's tools in here to do that kind of stuff. Or you build them too.

[ 24m14s - 24m20s ] Kyle James: And like the amount of content consumption we can get like summarizing that way is just just it's just crazy.

[ 24m20s - 24m25s ] Jorge Fuentes: It's insane. Absolutely, Kyle. I agree with you and definitely um on my end, the only thing I don't listen

[ 24m25s - 24m31s ] Jorge Fuentes: ever to at a at a bigger speed is music, right? Just because it changes the whole thing. Yeah, that's weird. But the um

[ 24m31s - 24m37s ] Jorge Fuentes: the anything that's like uh, you know, uh that I can listen to, it could be, you know, um a tutorial,

[ 24m37s - 24m41s ] Jorge Fuentes: it could be something that just on the background, maybe even a podcast or whatever while I'm working, etc.

[ 24m41s - 24m43s ] Kyle James: Hubspot certifications, I imagine.

[ 24m43s - 24m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: Right, right. for sure. I mean, especially when I'm recertifying, right? So I already know the content.

[ 24m48s - 24m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: I already passed it at one point. and definitely yeah, just doing the research at 2X speed doesn't really hurt anybody, right? So so that's.

[ 24m53s - 24m54s ] Kyle James: Yeah, you just refresh it.

[ 24m54s - 25m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: Yeah, that's it, that's it. And so yeah, that's what this agent does. Um um build several others, right? We also have like

[ 25m2s - 25m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: um the HR candidate screen, right? And and so um by the way, that one is more

[ 25m7s - 25m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: let's say business or HR focused, definitely. Uh but I'll just go here at my profile and what this one does, we

[ 25m12s - 25m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: um you know, sometimes I've I I've remembered when back in the past when I was, you know, job hunting or whatever,

[ 25m21s - 25m31s ] Jorge Fuentes: um that I didn't know if my experience was actually a match for the the job description, right? Uh because sometimes, you know, uh

[ 25m31s - 25m36s ] Jorge Fuentes: you might be, sometimes maybe not. some sometimes you're over confident, but sometimes you're also like uh under valuing

[ 25m36s - 25m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: yourself too, right? Like like you're like, well, um, you know, I I don't think I could get that job there because, you know,

[ 25m42s - 25m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: the the the description sounds, you know, really uh really long, really tough. I I'm just not up for it. and you and you can run this

[ 25m48s - 25m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: agent to kind of like get a sense of whether or not you can actually apply for it or or if you'd be a good candidate

[ 25m53s - 25m54s ] Jorge Fuentes: for it too, right?

[ 25m54s - 25m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um because this thing doesn't really tell you, you know, you're not a good fit, don't apply. No, no.

[ 25m58s - 26m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: And it also doesn't tell you, you know, hire this person because they're a rock star, they fit in perfectly.

[ 26m2s - 26m8s ] Jorge Fuentes: Nobody really fits a 100% of a uh, you know, a job description, I would say. Um

[ 26m8s - 26m13s ] Jorge Fuentes: and if they do, they probably don't need a job, right? They're already probably employed somewhere, right? So so so to me, what this agent

[ 26m13s - 26m17s ] Jorge Fuentes: does, uh and it's also helpful, right? Uh it it is, you know, you upload your CV uh

[ 26m17s - 26m24s ] Jorge Fuentes: or or the candidate CV, you can be using this, by the way, as a as a recruiter or as a um a candidate, right?

[ 26m24s - 26m36s ] Jorge Fuentes: You paste in the job description of the job you want to apply for or or have applied for. And then it'll, you know, grab, you know, kind of like the your resume and compare it with the job description and tell you areas of improvement

[ 26m36s - 26m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: and others where you're already meeting the criteria, right?

[ 26m38s - 26m47s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so, yeah, this one also stem from my own experience. I wish I had this when I was um uh, you know, on the on the job

[ 26m47s - 26m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: back in the pandemic on the job hunting um uh right? Let's call it. And um and yeah, absolutely.

[ 26m53s - 27m0s ] Jorge Fuentes: It it stems from also a use case that I've lived through and that could have been helpful and now you can get in

[ 27m0s - 27m6s ] Jorge Fuentes: in, you know, under a minute, uh a good view on what you might have to level up on if you want to apply for that job

[ 27m6s - 27m8s ] Jorge Fuentes: or if you're ready to take the plunge and apply for sure.

[ 27m8s - 27m15s ] Kyle James: Yeah, it makes total sense, right? Like but I think once again, the common theme through all these is like, it's not going to tell you perfectly, is this a job for you or not? or are they going to hire you?

[ 27m15s - 27m25s ] Kyle James: But it kind of tears it for you, right? Like once again, 80% likely you're a really good fit for this thing. You should move forward versus uh, you're like at the 20% probably not the best use of your time. like move on to the next

[ 27m25s - 27m25s ] Kyle James: thing.

[ 27m25s - 27m33s ] Kyle James: And if it helps you make those kind of like tier judgment decisions faster, once again, you're still in the loop.

[ 27m33s - 27m37s ] Kyle James: Um, but you can kind of like, yay or nay, um, you're you're optimizing your time a lot more.

[ 27m37s - 27m44s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely, absolutely and even as a uh, you know, on the on the side of someone recruiting for a position,

[ 27m44s - 27m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: and you could also get a sense of, you know, this candidate, um, you know, they might be good because, you know, they meet maybe, you know,

[ 27m53s - 27m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: 70, 80% of the criteria. So I'll just ask so so so now, by the way, this agent also helps you with some of the questions

[ 27m58s - 28m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: that you can ask on the interview, right? Uh on the side of HR, right? So so that's also helpful, right?

[ 28m2s - 28m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: Imagine like, well, this candidate uh, you know, they they gave this CV and they might have experience on something, but they just didn't show it. So so so so it gives you a little bit of

[ 28m12s - 28m19s ] Jorge Fuentes: um uh of like uh suggestions on what you might ask them because, you know, they've met 80% of the criteria, let's explore it,

[ 28m19s - 28m25s ] Jorge Fuentes: they also meet the the 20% and what they have experience with and so on, right? So so I think that's uh why this one is helpful

[ 28m25s - 28m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: as well.

[ 28m26s - 28m36s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and yeah, definitely uh overall the the theme here is that I've built AI agents because I've lived through having

[ 28m36s - 28m41s ] Jorge Fuentes: needed them, right? at some point during my career. and then just, you know, being able to build them here

[ 28m41s - 28m49s ] Jorge Fuentes: on agent.ai, uh, you know, by the way, the the the user interface is super intuitive and friendly, right? And just the fact that I can

[ 28m49s - 28m56s ] Jorge Fuentes: call LLMs to perform uh stuff within the agent, like on the backend of it, right? It's

[ 28m56s - 29m5s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh pretty much, you know, gives me like the ability to build an agent for pretty much anything, right? Any use case. Um and that's kind of the mentality that um most of the citizen builders or agent builders we need to have

[ 29m5s - 29m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh when joining agent. for sure.

[ 29m7s - 29m12s ] Kyle James: Well, and talk to me about like success for you. Like how do you how do you make the decision I should agentize this or not?

[ 29m12s - 29m16s ] Kyle James: Like obviously if something's going to be able to save you time and it's a repeatable task, that that seems like part of it. But

[ 29m16s - 29m24s ] Kyle James: do you have more that goes into that kind of thought matrix for you? Is it something that has to be something that maybe takes you an hour to like, all right, if I can if I can cut this down to 15 minutes,

[ 29m24s - 29m28s ] Kyle James: kind of like in the example we looked at earlier, or do you try to do shorter tasks that like maybe you happen a whole lot more?

[ 29m28s - 29m31s ] Kyle James: Like is there is there some sort of like matrix that you go through in that decision process?

[ 29m31s - 29m37s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. I I will say this, right? Like it it definitely stems from um a need, right? To to have like

[ 29m37s - 29m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: um

[ 29m38s - 29m45s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh to do the tasks uh more optimally, right? Because uh by the way, we're talking about speed a lot uh

[ 29m45s - 29m50s ] Jorge Fuentes: today, but I definitely want to also focus on quality, right? And and and and lessening

[ 29m50s - 29m55s ] Jorge Fuentes: mistakes as well, right? So so quality assurance, right? So so if you can get things done faster,

[ 29m55s - 30m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: but with better quality or with um uh a lesser amount of mistakes, let's call it, right?

[ 30m2s - 30m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh that's already powerful too, right? So so you're you're making yourself like even more valuable, right? Because

[ 30m7s - 30m13s ] Jorge Fuentes: not only are you being uh, well, well, it is efficiency definitely, right? But you're not only being more um efficient on the side of being

[ 30m13s - 30m17s ] Jorge Fuentes: fast, right? Uh but also producing higher quality outputs as well, right? So so I think

[ 30m17s - 30m24s ] Jorge Fuentes: that that's kind of like uh the mentality or the reason behind uh these agents. They uh are, you know, human- powered

[ 30m24s - 30m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: AI assisted. um and definitely uh we need to be able to think about them uh in this way, right? Like like

[ 30m29s - 30m34s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh not only are we supposed to do things faster, right? Because everybody wants to do to get their job done quicker, right?

[ 30m34s - 30m40s ] Jorge Fuentes: If we could all get everything done within uh a day instead of a week, uh, you know, that's that'd be awesome, right?

[ 30m40s - 30m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: So definitely, uh we want to have the concern or or or the care for also the quality of what we're doing, right? Because ultimately, right? No matter

[ 30m48s - 30m54s ] Jorge Fuentes: what agent uh whether you're using AI or not, the the the work you put out there, um is tied to

[ 30m54s - 31m5s ] Jorge Fuentes: you, right? yourself, like your reputation as well, right? So, so just, you know, what I really am, let's say against of is kind of like uh some folks that, you know, they just want the prompt and they just put it in there and copy and paste it, publish and then just forget about it.

[ 31m5s - 31m11s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and that's not really helpful to anybody, right? Not even them because they're producing, you know, awful output out there

[ 31m11s - 31m14s ] Jorge Fuentes: that is not helping them nor their companies, right? So so so I think that's

[ 31m14s - 31m17s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh where where it stems from for sure. When I'm hearing you say about quality, like two things come to my mind

[ 31m17s - 31m22s ] Kyle James: like and you're alluding to both of them, but I just going to like make it clear for everybody is one is like if something takes you an hour

[ 31m22s - 31m26s ] Kyle James: and you're able to do that in 15 minutes and you respond or react into something, you're you're fresher, you're clearer, you

[ 31m26s - 31m31s ] Kyle James: you didn't make a mistake that you know, what I mean? You're like able to identify issues because you're not as as

[ 31m31s - 31m34s ] Kyle James: ingrained in it, maybe. Maybe that's the right word. You know what I mean? So I think that's one part of like the the

[ 31m34s - 31m38s ] Kyle James: better quality. But I think the other better quality is like, I know for me personally,

[ 31m38s - 31m41s ] Kyle James: I write like I talk and it's all run on sentences.

[ 31m41s - 31m47s ] Kyle James: AI actually follows English grammar really, really well. Yes, it uses too way too many EM dashes.

[ 31m47s - 31m50s ] Kyle James: but otherwise like, it makes very clear good structured sentences.

[ 31m50s - 31m56s ] Kyle James: So, in that respect, it's getting better quality too. Um and then you're just like

[ 31m56s - 32m0s ] Kyle James: editing and tweaking elements of it versus trying to write whole new sentences that are all run-ons in my case.

[ 32m0s - 32m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. Oh yeah, no, total totally get it. Yeah, if um and and that's the goal, right? Like definitely like getting

[ 32m7s - 32m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: the AI to, you know, magnify the the the talent that you already possess, right? So so it's not a replacement but rather a

[ 32m16s - 32m22s ] Jorge Fuentes: magnifier, projector of the human. and that's what it should be and and what we should strive for for sure.

[ 32m22s - 32m29s ] Jorge Fuentes: And and and that is part of like uh why, you know, the back the back end of these agents that I built have have that ingrained in them, right?

[ 32m29s - 32m38s ] Jorge Fuentes: Like, you know, make sure that the lead scoring framework has uh the maximum of the best practice, you know, to keep it under 100, right? Because, you know, the I would say 99%

[ 32m38s - 32m43s ] Jorge Fuentes: of let's say small businesses out there, uh they don't care about having a lead scoring framework of up to 10,000

[ 32m43s - 32m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: points, right? Like it just doesn't make sense for them, right? Just move the decimal a couple places to the left and it's the same number.

[ 32m48s - 32m53s ] Jorge Fuentes: Totally, totally. Keep it under the the 100 because that's that's going to be helpful for pretty much anybody that wants to build

[ 32m53s - 32m59s ] Jorge Fuentes: a lead scoring framework or or even knows that they need one, right? Like there's obviously a ton of businesses that might not even care about it yet.

[ 32m59s - 33m5s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um but but you know, it it is a tool that gets you uh 60%, 70% of the way there and gives you an idea

[ 33m5s - 33m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: of what you should be scoring on for sure.

[ 33m7s - 33m17s ] Kyle James: You've talked about this a little bit about where you see this stuff going. And and I'm curious too because at this point, you've been using H& AI specifically for for over a year now. You know, LLMs and generative

[ 33m17s - 33m27s ] Kyle James: AI for a while now. Like, what do you see this stuff going? two, three, eight, I mean, can you see that far? How do you see this stuff playing out over, you know, the the coming years.

[ 33m27s - 33m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely, Kyle. So, I think um and and also coming back to kind of like uh the combo we were having at the beginning of of today's show, right? Um the fact that anybody could could leverage an agent, right?

[ 33m42s - 33m51s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh by just sending an email to to that agent, right? Uh it already uh, you know, gives us a little bit of visibility on the adoption curve of

[ 33m51s - 33s ] Jorge Fuentes: of of agents, right? I think the the fact that they're the you know, the adoption curve is is is way uh let let's call it uh faster than

[ 34s - 34m8s ] Jorge Fuentes: anything from, you know, SAS software historically, right? Because to be honest to to to use Hubspot or or click up or or Jira or whichever tool

[ 34m8s - 34m15s ] Jorge Fuentes: out there, right? for either a CRM or a project management tool, you need a little bit of tech savviness, right? Uh and so that makes already the adoption a little slower

[ 34m15s - 34m22s ] Jorge Fuentes: for most users, right? Uh but uh definitely with with agents, uh AI in general, uh the fact that anybody

[ 34m22s - 34m30s ] Jorge Fuentes: could just send an email and trigger an agent, the fact that you could talk to chat just uh via your phone, obviously, right? And have a chat, powerful chat. It could even like yes, produce

[ 34m30s - 34m39s ] Jorge Fuentes: work for you like spreadsheets, uh PDFs, etc. everything we've uh we've seen it do. Um and and now obviously with the release of uh you know, agentic browsers, right?

[ 34m39s - 34m47s ] Jorge Fuentes: Like perplexity comet browser, um open AI Atlas, right? Uh AI is getting to a point where it can be adopted

[ 34m47s - 34m54s ] Jorge Fuentes: faster than any other software in history, I would say. And so that is how I see it playing uh in a couple years. I I think obviously AI is here to stay.

[ 34m54s - 35m1s ] Jorge Fuentes: We all know that, right? Uh I I've noticed that in my own day-to-day, uh I can't go back to just searching for stuff on Google,

[ 35m1s - 35m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: right? For for my for my job or or the things that I do. I talk to AI almost every day in the sense of like, you know, uh

[ 35m7s - 35m14s ] Jorge Fuentes: not in a weird way, but definitely like kind of like, you know, uh, you know, help me research this and that. Um I leverage the the agents that I built.

[ 35m14s - 35m24s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um and obviously out there there's there's there's even clones you can talk to from, you know, historical figures, famous people. and and you know, if and when all of this

[ 35m24s - 35m32s ] Jorge Fuentes: technology uh uh the AI in general is being used to uh, you know, get better as a as a human, right? Like improve

[ 35m32s - 35m40s ] Jorge Fuentes: on your skills, um, you know, I I'll be honest. I I've talked to several clones on on Delphi, uh from, you know, some historical figures

[ 35m40s - 35m46s ] Jorge Fuentes: because I I want to up my game in in maybe knowledge, right? Or or or increase my, you know, uh like leverage

[ 35m46s - 35m51s ] Jorge Fuentes: or or improve my communication skills, maybe, right? Like the way I I I talk through things and whatever. So so so so I think

[ 35m51s - 35m56s ] Jorge Fuentes: obviously there might be an element of, you know, uh who you're talking to, right? Like I I've I've I've had that in the past

[ 35m56s - 36m2s ] Jorge Fuentes: too, right? Like for example, my wife is is pretty much against all of that because she's like, how are you going to talk to a machine? Just talk to a real person, go go out there.

[ 36m2s - 36m7s ] Jorge Fuentes: And I'm like, well, well, this is faster, right? Like it's it's right in my computer. I can just start the talk and all, right?

[ 36m7s - 36m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: Um but the point being is um as long as AI can be leveraged to improve upon one's uh skill set or or even get acquire new skills, get more

[ 36m16s - 36m22s ] Jorge Fuentes: valuable in general. Um there's no issues uh with uh with AI in general or no need to to worry too much about it.

[ 36m22s - 36m28s ] Jorge Fuentes: I I think it's overall a good thing. Uh obviously, like anything that's been created in the past, it can be used for good or evil,

[ 36m28s - 36m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: whatever. but but I do see like a like a good future on AI. It gives a lot more opportunity. And and coming back to what we were uh talking about

[ 36m35s - 36m42s ] Jorge Fuentes: at the beginning, right? Um anybody is still early to get into into the game and and, you know, do a lot of valuable stuff with it

[ 36m42s - 36m43s ] Jorge Fuentes: for sure. Very cool.

[ 36m43s - 36m45s ] Kyle James: Very cool. I agree with you and all that too, by the way.

[ 36m45s - 36m50s ] Kyle James: Um, as we start to wrap up, Jorge, like, what is the best way for people to connect with you? Um, how do you how how can

[ 36m50s - 36m55s ] Kyle James: they collaborate with you? Are you looking for testers? Are you looking for new ideas for agents or or

[ 36m55s - 37m0s ] Kyle James: you know, customers that you can take these agents and and, you know, use for them? Like share kind of some of that those that that long info.

[ 37m0s - 37m1s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely.

[ 37m1s - 37m6s ] Jorge Fuentes: Absolutely. So on LinkedIn, uh I'm as Jorge Fuentes, right?

[ 37m6s - 37m11s ] Jorge Fuentes: Feel free to connect with me. I'll accept your invite. I I accept pretty much everybody because I know that uh you know, almost everybody has something valuable

[ 37m11s - 37m16s ] Jorge Fuentes: to to add. And definitely, so feel free to reach out to me on LinkedIn. Um um feel free to also uh

[ 37m16s - 37m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: follow me on agent.ai, right? Like I have my profile there too. And and do I I would encourage yes folks to try my

[ 37m21s - 37m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: agents, uh, you know, run them, leave me your you know, your feedback. Not only, you know, the stars are are great, right?

[ 37m26s - 37m33s ] Jorge Fuentes: Five star, but also like tell me why, right? Like if it's a five star, why, what did you like about it? Um and if there's some improvement, right? Like a one star, what

[ 37m33s - 37m41s ] Jorge Fuentes: can be improved upon it, right? Like the the feedback, the more feedback, the better, the longer it is, the even the better. And um that'll be uh that'll be pretty much it.

[ 37m41s - 37m47s ] Jorge Fuentes: So yes, LinkedIn to connect with me and definitely uh agent.ai, I have a profile there, test out the agents and let me know what you think

[ 37m47s - 37m48s ] Jorge Fuentes: about them. Absolutely.

[ 37m48s - 37m52s ] Kyle James: Any final thoughts? What did I not ask you? or what do you want to like leave everybody with and kind of closing here, Jorge?

[ 37m52s - 37m56s ] Jorge Fuentes: I'm totally Kyle. So, um I'll I'll say this, right? Um

[ 37m56s - 38m6s ] Jorge Fuentes: we're at a point in history where the opportunity is great and quite equalized, I'll say, right?

[ 38m6s - 38m15s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh in the sense of like historically, you know, uh to become, you know, X Y or C, you needed to know people there,

[ 38m15s - 38m21s ] Jorge Fuentes: uh you need to have a network, you need to have like uh money as well to pay for, you know, uh an Ivy league school or whatever,

[ 38m21s - 38m26s ] Jorge Fuentes: right? Uh but right now we're at a point where that's been democratized, that's been equalized in the sense of like the opportunity

[ 38m26s - 38m35s ] Jorge Fuentes: of it. So anybody, I would say anyone that um is still doubting whether or not to to to to start something, right?

[ 38m35s - 38m41s ] Jorge Fuentes: Uh whether that's building their first agent for themselves, uh, you know, uh obviously tools like lovable, replet, you can even build

[ 38m41s - 38m46s ] Jorge Fuentes: apps right now, like software that that can be used, right? etc. uh just with AI, right? So I would say, you know, that that's kind of my my

[ 38m46s - 38m52s ] Jorge Fuentes: key takeaway is like get started. Um I I myself, you know, I I was just uh let let's call it, you know, uh

[ 38m52s - 38m58s ] Jorge Fuentes: I was a lawyer, insurance agent, then turned to marketer, and then now I just build agents for fun, right?

[ 38m58s - 39m4s ] Jorge Fuentes: now, but I definitely use them, so they do save me time. They uh save other users time as well, save time and money, right?

[ 39m4s - 39m11s ] Jorge Fuentes: And so so what I'm saying is like don't hold back on trying to add value the AI because we're still in kind of like the infancy of it all

[ 39m11s - 39m12s ] Jorge Fuentes: for sure.

[ 39m12s - 39m21s ] Kyle James: That's so so true, right? It it is a level playing field that these things are free. Just so like, yes, you can go pay 20 bucks a month to some of them.

[ 39m21s - 39m29s ] Kyle James: But so many of them are free and you can get access to all the powerful ones for free through H& AI. There's a little plug there for people.

[ 39m29s - 39m38s ] Kyle James: So, take advantage of this thing, be curious, go out and play and build and and find out the life experiences or things you've done in the past that

[ 39m38s - 39m45s ] Kyle James: you can agentize and share with others and that that's such a great great great leaving thought for everybody.

[ 39m45s - 39m50s ] Jorge Fuentes: Every pain point uh we've experienced, uh somebody else has also gone through it.

[ 39m50s - 39m56s ] Jorge Fuentes: So building something, you know, to to tackle that problem, um I think it's valuable and anybody could do it for sure.

[ 39m56s - 40m2s ] Kyle James: Well, everybody out there, if you enjoyed this conversation, please like, subscribe. We're on all your audio platforms too on podcast.

[ 40m2s - 40m6s ] Kyle James: So leave a five star review there. I will not be upset if you do that. Um and until next time,

[ 40m6s - 40m13s ] Kyle James: go out there on on the level playing field, try these things, use these things, level yourself up and and and keep growing.

[ 40m13s - 40m18s ] Kyle James: Um have a great rest of your day and we'll see you next time on prompted builder stories.